IF THIS DON'T BEAT THE DEVIL !
IF THAT DON’T BEAT THE DEVIL !
Chavez kicks ass Bush sucks
http://www.thephora.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13453
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Chavez: Bush is 'the devil'
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...d/4201464.html
UNITED NATIONS — Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez took his verbal battle with the United States to the floor of the U.N. General Assembly on Wednesday, calling President Bush "the devil."
The impassioned speech by the leftist leader came a day after Bush and Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad sparred over Tehran's disputed nuclear program but managed to avoid a personal encounter.
Posts:
Chavez is right. It's about time prominent heads of state are calling out America for it's blatant and disgraceful hypocrisy and double standards.
#13
WFHermans
Rabang Miller, flogger of jews
Chavez is a good Christian man. Like Jesus Christ did almost 2000 years ago, he recognizes the Devil when he sees him.
Bush's insistence that children should be tortured is enough proof that he is one of those who are the "Sons of Satan".
#19
sicilianpride
Banned
________________________________________
Bush is the devil. He is one of the many forms of Satan
*******
Is God Dead? They should have let the 60's liberals kill Him.
Now, He will have revenge, looks like.
Hugo Chavez’ thunderbolt is neoconservative karma catching up to America. (see my “Reality, Reason and Realization”: A Critique of The Ah Ha! Experience Philosophy)
The price you have to pay for freedom, if you follow Bush (Devil worshippers; Re-pubes are witches).
The argument is laid out elsewhere (sidthomasblogspot.com: Deconstructing Bush’s God-reversal).
In sum:
1. Bush, on his own authority, reversed the use of “God” vis a vis use of federal tax dollars for charities and educational institutions. Previously a barrier (to prevent public support of private religions), he declared this ‘discriminatory’, “using God’s name to discriminate”; and turned the US treasury’s spigot into a sectarian watertrough. This was never adjudicated; 911 happened.
2. Months after taking office, he (GWB) targeted US Catholics and Jews as re-election swing-votes. As politics, this fed directly into the plans and hands of the “Clean Break” foreign policy of the neocons (1996: Likud/Netanyahu faction in Israel, backed by Falwell-Robertson-Dobbs faction Fox News faction in US). This politically empowered the chickenhawks to push hard line war talk to take control of Iraq; then Syria, Iran, Lebanon, following the pattern of detente reached with Jordan and Egypt.
This is the script of US foreign policy that has unfolded without deviation up through 9.11. 06 ff.
3. In the ’02 State of the Union address, Bush declared – he says on his own authority, therefore must be held personally accountable; but actually contributed by Jewish speechwriter David Frum, whose wife ratted him out, it was said. As a quasi-theological term – actually used for what is most passionately hated in absolute terms, opposite whatever proceeds of most valued, God – he dares use it as predicate for international relations. The main stream press follows like lapdogs. They can’t eat enough of that shit. “God Squad” rappers in drag start popping up on TV. For the record, it was provided by the Peace of Westphalia, l638, to close the 30 year war between European Protestants and Catholics, that “confessional (sacramental) language” is not to be used for matters of state. The Papacy in Rome and the Jewish State of Israel have been treated as de facto as exceptions and accorded national dignities by courtesy, though the latter has accompanied the Jewish confessional “God” title with massive build up of force of arms.
I, among others (damn few) outspokenly objected at the time that this was absurd. “Evil”, being the closest expression in words of non-verbal (abhorrent, repugnant, repulsive, grotesque, sadistic, cruel, unmerciful torture, degeneracy, despair – suffering through all that, and more, in helplessness; physical suffering with psychic trauma; cf. Rosselinni’s film SALO), its use gains no more, nor less, cognitive foothold on reality than the depth of these experiences. The deepest, most broadly shared of these is birth trauma, and the negative inner recoil from the “abysmal womb” – ‘dark’, uncomfortable side of the pre-birth womb-surround – plus the “poisonous placenta”: the crushing, serpentine, strangling, blood-sucking “web” or “network” that clings to the to-be-born infant -- which it must do “battle” with, later re-projected in flashback as “cosmic conflict”,…. IS THE MOST REGRESSED POSITION OF GROUP CONSCIOUSNESS, TRIGGERING ‘WAR’ FOR (re-)birth by killing The Poisonous Placenta.
The primordial ‘enemy’ is the fantasized “poisonous placenta” returned to batten onto the group’s womb-surround. Thus, America, and the globe, beset by the deadly Al Queda “network”, with “cell”s, like communism had (same fantasy: “Trotskyite socialists as Jews-cum-neocons”). The law is, that once group-fantasy tokens gain acceptance and use, ‘devotees’ (personality types, ‘thetans’ in Scientology) will respond to act the part. Fantasies feed off of themselves and each other, pull entities into orbital alignment and create names for entities as if ‘prophesied.” TokenSpace abhors a vacuum. Every text will find its token, and whatever ”evil” is supposed to be, as projected by given individuals or organizations, will find its incarnation. Witness L. Ron Hubbard and his friend Parsons, practicing sex-magick to incarnate the antichrist.
Now “evil” (as (in human terms) “the ultimately abhorrent”) communicates a subjective, not external-objective content of consciousness. That is to say, in human terms, its use is “relative”. Although presupposing a similar psycho-organic ‘background” of consciousness, with contents imprinted under trauma ‘looped out’ of TokenSpace-reality, “it” battens onto whatever else is contained under conscious sign-use, as a “dualizer”: a ‘splitter’ of whatever they are “applied” to into two opposite and dualing points. Thus, if the Jewish monotheism is allowed sanction by sacralized terms, like “Zionist” (or “Israel”, or “Jew”, itself), with its “Torah” (law; sin; doctrines or stories of evil), the incarnation of its opposite, in respect of some evil, will be emerging to lay equal claim to the highest good. This will be that which is opposed to – fights – evil, by definition (token-tautology: THE good and THE evil are not identical, though any particular thing may be both in different respects: cf Plato ).
Given that “evil” (as “THE” evil) is subjective, it does not follow that it does not, in a sense, communicate something common for different persons, different groups of persons, and the same person at different times, although used of different objects. The basis for assuming this, as said, is the universally shared content of the placenta-birth-trauma complex as the unconscious matrix of communication. “God”, as personified completion of the birth process, having opened up lungs to air and eye to sky, is the phantom nurturant placenta, the Mysterious All Powerful Being that supplied oxygen, nutrients and well-being in the growing baby’s womb-surround. NOTE: this later “God” who bestows “blessings”, is, originally, one and the same “thing” (cf. the “-ing” sound is placental) “containing the fetus, against it must struggle-for-freedom, “deliverance from oppression”, heroically fight “the cosmic battle’ for the first breath of air, in everyone’s actual birth.
As soon as “evil” came out of Bush’s mouth, it was only a matter of (what we call) “time” before Chavez would appear in the UN and call him “The Devil”. His earlier reversal of God-use had emboldened him to go further. By throwing this sign-use into TokenSpace, ker plunk! he has ignited a fire under himself.
This is what Chavez was throwing back at him.
Chavez kicks ass Bush sucks
http://www.thephora.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13453
The Phora > The Lyceum > Current Events
Chavez: Bush is 'the devil'
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...d/4201464.html
UNITED NATIONS — Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez took his verbal battle with the United States to the floor of the U.N. General Assembly on Wednesday, calling President Bush "the devil."
The impassioned speech by the leftist leader came a day after Bush and Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad sparred over Tehran's disputed nuclear program but managed to avoid a personal encounter.
Posts:
Chavez is right. It's about time prominent heads of state are calling out America for it's blatant and disgraceful hypocrisy and double standards.
#13
WFHermans
Rabang Miller, flogger of jews
Chavez is a good Christian man. Like Jesus Christ did almost 2000 years ago, he recognizes the Devil when he sees him.
Bush's insistence that children should be tortured is enough proof that he is one of those who are the "Sons of Satan".
#19
sicilianpride
Banned
________________________________________
Bush is the devil. He is one of the many forms of Satan
*******
Is God Dead? They should have let the 60's liberals kill Him.
Now, He will have revenge, looks like.
Hugo Chavez’ thunderbolt is neoconservative karma catching up to America. (see my “Reality, Reason and Realization”: A Critique of The Ah Ha! Experience Philosophy)
The price you have to pay for freedom, if you follow Bush (Devil worshippers; Re-pubes are witches).
The argument is laid out elsewhere (sidthomasblogspot.com: Deconstructing Bush’s God-reversal).
In sum:
1. Bush, on his own authority, reversed the use of “God” vis a vis use of federal tax dollars for charities and educational institutions. Previously a barrier (to prevent public support of private religions), he declared this ‘discriminatory’, “using God’s name to discriminate”; and turned the US treasury’s spigot into a sectarian watertrough. This was never adjudicated; 911 happened.
2. Months after taking office, he (GWB) targeted US Catholics and Jews as re-election swing-votes. As politics, this fed directly into the plans and hands of the “Clean Break” foreign policy of the neocons (1996: Likud/Netanyahu faction in Israel, backed by Falwell-Robertson-Dobbs faction Fox News faction in US). This politically empowered the chickenhawks to push hard line war talk to take control of Iraq; then Syria, Iran, Lebanon, following the pattern of detente reached with Jordan and Egypt.
This is the script of US foreign policy that has unfolded without deviation up through 9.11. 06 ff.
3. In the ’02 State of the Union address, Bush declared – he says on his own authority, therefore must be held personally accountable; but actually contributed by Jewish speechwriter David Frum, whose wife ratted him out, it was said. As a quasi-theological term – actually used for what is most passionately hated in absolute terms, opposite whatever proceeds of most valued, God – he dares use it as predicate for international relations. The main stream press follows like lapdogs. They can’t eat enough of that shit. “God Squad” rappers in drag start popping up on TV. For the record, it was provided by the Peace of Westphalia, l638, to close the 30 year war between European Protestants and Catholics, that “confessional (sacramental) language” is not to be used for matters of state. The Papacy in Rome and the Jewish State of Israel have been treated as de facto as exceptions and accorded national dignities by courtesy, though the latter has accompanied the Jewish confessional “God” title with massive build up of force of arms.
I, among others (damn few) outspokenly objected at the time that this was absurd. “Evil”, being the closest expression in words of non-verbal (abhorrent, repugnant, repulsive, grotesque, sadistic, cruel, unmerciful torture, degeneracy, despair – suffering through all that, and more, in helplessness; physical suffering with psychic trauma; cf. Rosselinni’s film SALO), its use gains no more, nor less, cognitive foothold on reality than the depth of these experiences. The deepest, most broadly shared of these is birth trauma, and the negative inner recoil from the “abysmal womb” – ‘dark’, uncomfortable side of the pre-birth womb-surround – plus the “poisonous placenta”: the crushing, serpentine, strangling, blood-sucking “web” or “network” that clings to the to-be-born infant -- which it must do “battle” with, later re-projected in flashback as “cosmic conflict”,…. IS THE MOST REGRESSED POSITION OF GROUP CONSCIOUSNESS, TRIGGERING ‘WAR’ FOR (re-)birth by killing The Poisonous Placenta.
The primordial ‘enemy’ is the fantasized “poisonous placenta” returned to batten onto the group’s womb-surround. Thus, America, and the globe, beset by the deadly Al Queda “network”, with “cell”s, like communism had (same fantasy: “Trotskyite socialists as Jews-cum-neocons”). The law is, that once group-fantasy tokens gain acceptance and use, ‘devotees’ (personality types, ‘thetans’ in Scientology) will respond to act the part. Fantasies feed off of themselves and each other, pull entities into orbital alignment and create names for entities as if ‘prophesied.” TokenSpace abhors a vacuum. Every text will find its token, and whatever ”evil” is supposed to be, as projected by given individuals or organizations, will find its incarnation. Witness L. Ron Hubbard and his friend Parsons, practicing sex-magick to incarnate the antichrist.
Now “evil” (as (in human terms) “the ultimately abhorrent”) communicates a subjective, not external-objective content of consciousness. That is to say, in human terms, its use is “relative”. Although presupposing a similar psycho-organic ‘background” of consciousness, with contents imprinted under trauma ‘looped out’ of TokenSpace-reality, “it” battens onto whatever else is contained under conscious sign-use, as a “dualizer”: a ‘splitter’ of whatever they are “applied” to into two opposite and dualing points. Thus, if the Jewish monotheism is allowed sanction by sacralized terms, like “Zionist” (or “Israel”, or “Jew”, itself), with its “Torah” (law; sin; doctrines or stories of evil), the incarnation of its opposite, in respect of some evil, will be emerging to lay equal claim to the highest good. This will be that which is opposed to – fights – evil, by definition (token-tautology: THE good and THE evil are not identical, though any particular thing may be both in different respects: cf Plato ).
Given that “evil” (as “THE” evil) is subjective, it does not follow that it does not, in a sense, communicate something common for different persons, different groups of persons, and the same person at different times, although used of different objects. The basis for assuming this, as said, is the universally shared content of the placenta-birth-trauma complex as the unconscious matrix of communication. “God”, as personified completion of the birth process, having opened up lungs to air and eye to sky, is the phantom nurturant placenta, the Mysterious All Powerful Being that supplied oxygen, nutrients and well-being in the growing baby’s womb-surround. NOTE: this later “God” who bestows “blessings”, is, originally, one and the same “thing” (cf. the “-ing” sound is placental) “containing the fetus, against it must struggle-for-freedom, “deliverance from oppression”, heroically fight “the cosmic battle’ for the first breath of air, in everyone’s actual birth.
As soon as “evil” came out of Bush’s mouth, it was only a matter of (what we call) “time” before Chavez would appear in the UN and call him “The Devil”. His earlier reversal of God-use had emboldened him to go further. By throwing this sign-use into TokenSpace, ker plunk! he has ignited a fire under himself.
This is what Chavez was throwing back at him.
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