Dragon slaying (Heideggar, Parmenodes)
From The Phora. Posting under Philosophy -Parmenides fragments 1.15.'07
Fragment 3
For thinking and being are the same.
Fragment 6
...one should both say and think that being is...
Interpretations by Heidegger:
...needful is the gathering setting-forth as well the apprehension: the essent in its being...
...needful is the gathered setting-forth as well as the apprehension of this: the essent (is) being...
Fragment 8
for not separately from the presence of what is present can you find out the taking-to-hear
Re 3. Once "Being" is replaced by "consciousness" (what else could it mean?) this becomes self-contradictory.
(As it is, the duality of "thinking" and "being", coupled by some mark of identification ("is the same as"), is spared judgtment of self-contradiction only a. by its blatant presence denied, when; b. though, as opposed to perception, is, in fact, identical with THE WAY reality is related to mentally through causes. So, ignoring the obffuscation of being-grammar (too subtle for Teutonic mentality -- nobody can tell wht Heiddegar is talkibing about because he runs together thought, consciousness, and the self-contained thoughts OF consciousness (as opposed to "out"-side (the womb-surround) ego-consciousness -- which is not self-contained within it (=consciousness)). He tries think like they did, without purging his language of formal esoteric monstrosities ("true if you 'get it'" -- formula of the anti-philosophical). It's all pure consciousness talk.)
Re 6. Yes. That is because "saying", i.e., articulating the thought in Sign-use* (also identified by Wittgenstein in Tractatus 4) requires, on the token side, a psychoneural process linking: perception, memory (non-verbal and verbal; meaning associations mediated by S* (and consciousness: presence, self-awareness). What is called "thought" takes the last of these items as the self containted content, repeatable at will, recognized by the familiarity and repetition of identical logical implication each dtime revived, as if were self-existent, and could throw off the anatomical apparatus. This splitting off of consciousness following thought, from consciousness embodied here-now, is, if I am not mistaken, the psychodynamic origin of metaphysical dualism in all its forms. It is the same place, functionally, as the splitting of text from token in sign-use, prompted always by the same textualist fallacy: that reality is related to EXCLUSIVELY through true/false propositions.
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Everything is two
Fragment 3
For thinking and being are the same.
Fragment 6
...one should both say and think that being is...
Interpretations by Heidegger:
...needful is the gathering setting-forth as well the apprehension: the essent in its being...
...needful is the gathered setting-forth as well as the apprehension of this: the essent (is) being...
Fragment 8
for not separately from the presence of what is present can you find out the taking-to-hear
Re 3. Once "Being" is replaced by "consciousness" (what else could it mean?) this becomes self-contradictory.
(As it is, the duality of "thinking" and "being", coupled by some mark of identification ("is the same as"), is spared judgtment of self-contradiction only a. by its blatant presence denied, when; b. though, as opposed to perception, is, in fact, identical with THE WAY reality is related to mentally through causes. So, ignoring the obffuscation of being-grammar (too subtle for Teutonic mentality -- nobody can tell wht Heiddegar is talkibing about because he runs together thought, consciousness, and the self-contained thoughts OF consciousness (as opposed to "out"-side (the womb-surround) ego-consciousness -- which is not self-contained within it (=consciousness)). He tries think like they did, without purging his language of formal esoteric monstrosities ("true if you 'get it'" -- formula of the anti-philosophical). It's all pure consciousness talk.)
Re 6. Yes. That is because "saying", i.e., articulating the thought in Sign-use* (also identified by Wittgenstein in Tractatus 4) requires, on the token side, a psychoneural process linking: perception, memory (non-verbal and verbal; meaning associations mediated by S* (and consciousness: presence, self-awareness). What is called "thought" takes the last of these items as the self containted content, repeatable at will, recognized by the familiarity and repetition of identical logical implication each dtime revived, as if were self-existent, and could throw off the anatomical apparatus. This splitting off of consciousness following thought, from consciousness embodied here-now, is, if I am not mistaken, the psychodynamic origin of metaphysical dualism in all its forms. It is the same place, functionally, as the splitting of text from token in sign-use, prompted always by the same textualist fallacy: that reality is related to EXCLUSIVELY through true/false propositions.
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Everything is two
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