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BLOG | Posted 10/22/2005 @ 2:42pm A reply to John Nichol's
A (True) Conservative Case for Exiting Iraq
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Comments 1. "True" no longer applies to "conservative" with descriptive, only tendentious force, even when applied to "Reagan"-ism. That is due to the fact that those on the political spectrum most deserving the title, in the way "True Torah Jews" deserve title of the religous representatives, are the Original Dissent Forum (Keyword)paleoconservatives, who were first to split off from the National Review Buckley/Buchanan (himself later splitting off) crowdk, plus Weekly Standard and all Jewish owned or controlled news outlets in so far as possible; and tagged the bell on the neocon's cat. (The Original Neocon Watch, managed by Anti-Yuppie, is a world-class historical document of this cult-like entity that came to destroy America.)
2. The case for pulling out --see "WHY NOT CUT AND RUN?" by Gen. W.E. Odom (ret.)answering nine reasons offered for 'staying the course', impressively overlapping Nichol's arguments -- goes beyond right/left, liberal/conservative, of course, but if this insidious bifurcation is brought in, let it be brought in accurately, and hard. Reagan's policy dictated by Likud/Sharon Israeli factions was right-wing kin calling each other, there as here, then as now.
3. Reagan's pull-out of Lebanon in '83 as a model for what "conservatives" could/should favor on Iraq is well taken, in itself, but must be tinctured by remembrance of Chatilla and Shabra. William Safire wrote a column during that time to which I responded, pointing out that it contained over thirty references to "Christian", as in "Christian Phalangists", and "solidarity with Christian causes here and abroad." I was incensed, and said so. Politicizing the name of Christ. It was the first time in my memory, tracing to pre-Eisenhower West Texas Baptist,that the name of the religion we were raised under was used by a state apparatus to kill enemies. Sharon had given the "Christian militia" the green light to commit atrocity.
Those who are true conservative after that are the one's who condemned him, his enablers, and all those who have written off what the dead marines in Beyruth mean. They were so gung-ho, one report said at the time, they didn't even post a periphery guard to keep out drive-by bombers. The shield of Reagan's God would protect them.
Posted by JONES 10/23/2005 @ 11:38am | ignore this person
A (True) Conservative Case for Exiting Iraq
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Comments 1. "True" no longer applies to "conservative" with descriptive, only tendentious force, even when applied to "Reagan"-ism. That is due to the fact that those on the political spectrum most deserving the title, in the way "True Torah Jews" deserve title of the religous representatives, are the Original Dissent Forum (Keyword)paleoconservatives, who were first to split off from the National Review Buckley/Buchanan (himself later splitting off) crowdk, plus Weekly Standard and all Jewish owned or controlled news outlets in so far as possible; and tagged the bell on the neocon's cat. (The Original Neocon Watch, managed by Anti-Yuppie, is a world-class historical document of this cult-like entity that came to destroy America.)
2. The case for pulling out --see "WHY NOT CUT AND RUN?" by Gen. W.E. Odom (ret.)answering nine reasons offered for 'staying the course', impressively overlapping Nichol's arguments -- goes beyond right/left, liberal/conservative, of course, but if this insidious bifurcation is brought in, let it be brought in accurately, and hard. Reagan's policy dictated by Likud/Sharon Israeli factions was right-wing kin calling each other, there as here, then as now.
3. Reagan's pull-out of Lebanon in '83 as a model for what "conservatives" could/should favor on Iraq is well taken, in itself, but must be tinctured by remembrance of Chatilla and Shabra. William Safire wrote a column during that time to which I responded, pointing out that it contained over thirty references to "Christian", as in "Christian Phalangists", and "solidarity with Christian causes here and abroad." I was incensed, and said so. Politicizing the name of Christ. It was the first time in my memory, tracing to pre-Eisenhower West Texas Baptist,that the name of the religion we were raised under was used by a state apparatus to kill enemies. Sharon had given the "Christian militia" the green light to commit atrocity.
Those who are true conservative after that are the one's who condemned him, his enablers, and all those who have written off what the dead marines in Beyruth mean. They were so gung-ho, one report said at the time, they didn't even post a periphery guard to keep out drive-by bombers. The shield of Reagan's God would protect them.
Posted by JONES 10/23/2005 @ 11:38am | ignore this person
posted by Sid Thomas | 11:38 AM
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