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Originally Posted by Protruth
AE,
I don't know what the grads did, but I know of students who, interrupting their studies, enlisted during the Vietnam era.
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These weren't the men, these were the daddy's mommy boys. "Interrupting their studies", eh. I saw one fine young man on the back row of class one semester, reported killed the next. Swore father's hatred of the cowardly bastards who sent him there forever...that is all these entervening years, and the next onrs, however many there might be, are all about. They have done it again, and will again and again because they are pathological liars and psychotic killers masking as humans.
Nobody openly defended the war on Ivy League campuses. They just slunk around talking trash and causing mischief.
Now from thje distance of time, after the lying about the ninconpoop Kerry, of course they emerge and call everybody who stood up to the military in those days "cowards." I am not making this up .. we've got a live witness.
Another thing this shared mentality of pathological liars and psychotic killers who were responsible for the Vietnam war, Raygun and chimp did (LETS HEAR IT FOR THE REAL MEN WHO SUPPORT GEORGE W. BUSH!! Ghraib me some ass men from Aboo -- always the same type) -- was this: spy on war protestors with illegal wire taps. Then, when exposed (I've told this to classes many time, showing the evidence), popped out the headline "THE PARANOIDS WERE RIGHT -- FBI TAPPED PHONES".
Yes, we won the Vietnam war -- the ones who were against it -- because we were right, and had the guts to get out there and stand up. These weren't the liberals; many felt they couldn't go as far as it took to get the job done, and got deserved contempt from both sides. Stopped the military machine for one day, because in America it has no authority except that which comes from the people. Power to them.
This war has now come to be about whether Americans can be brought to shoot other Americans -- whether the unfortunates sent to Iraq will be so debased, degraded and demoralized when they return home that they will consent to be used as mercenaries to defend the same neocoon
interests that did it to them, by shooting dissidents. The way Lincoln's union troops killed Southrons. Because, if the people rose up to throw the bastards out of Washington once for all, that is what it would come to. I'm thinking seriously of going down. Any support here?*****
Regardless of the behavior of the camera-hog cowards protesting the war, there was majority support at my University for the War in Vietnam - by actual poll.
Where's that?
Well, I didn 't do it for the cameras. That is a detestable smear. However, rumor was that filmaker Nick Ray (Rebel Without A Cause) who shot some 200 hrs of Harpur antiwar action caught me in a demonstration holding forth. See, I enjoyed being a big fish in a little pond. The Ivy wimps to the east hardly mattered. (Witness how they turned out: Harvard/Yale/Princeton -- Dershowitz, Bush, Akito).
And I wonder why the CAP people, not to mention Sam I Am, don't defend the position taken then on "women and minorities"? Could it have been a put-up, paid-for operation of a secret agency, like the national Student Government association, John Birch, et al? Then, when exposed, used the military --support for ROTC, who would object to that today? as cover for systematic agent provacateur mischief.
[The supporters had better things to do - like study!
It is false that those who studied instead of protesting necessarily supported the war. Some were afraid for their careers -- cowardly, one might say. But all should have particitated in the unfolding historical reality. It is what studies are for. That was/is the message. Anyone who missed it does not know America however much 'book larnin'' they aquire.
- than mimic the gutless b**tards making all the noise, breaking things and burning their draft
cards. Protruth
PS. I can't speak for other Ivies.
Those were the Ones, alright. Kick out the jams. Roll a fattie and blast out Hendrix and Marley. Chicks will appear, guaranteed. Man 'o man.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Protruth
AE,
I don't know what the grads did, but I know of students who, interrupting their studies, enlisted during the Vietnam era.
***
These weren't the men, these were the daddy's mommy boys. "Interrupting their studies", eh. I saw one fine young man on the back row of class one semester, reported killed the next. Swore father's hatred of the cowardly bastards who sent him there forever...that is all these entervening years, and the next onrs, however many there might be, are all about. They have done it again, and will again and again because they are pathological liars and psychotic killers masking as humans.
Nobody openly defended the war on Ivy League campuses. They just slunk around talking trash and causing mischief.
Now from thje distance of time, after the lying about the ninconpoop Kerry, of course they emerge and call everybody who stood up to the military in those days "cowards." I am not making this up .. we've got a live witness.
Another thing this shared mentality of pathological liars and psychotic killers who were responsible for the Vietnam war, Raygun and chimp did (LETS HEAR IT FOR THE REAL MEN WHO SUPPORT GEORGE W. BUSH!! Ghraib me some ass men from Aboo -- always the same type) -- was this: spy on war protestors with illegal wire taps. Then, when exposed (I've told this to classes many time, showing the evidence), popped out the headline "THE PARANOIDS WERE RIGHT -- FBI TAPPED PHONES".
Yes, we won the Vietnam war -- the ones who were against it -- because we were right, and had the guts to get out there and stand up. These weren't the liberals; many felt they couldn't go as far as it took to get the job done, and got deserved contempt from both sides. Stopped the military machine for one day, because in America it has no authority except that which comes from the people. Power to them.
This war has now come to be about whether Americans can be brought to shoot other Americans -- whether the unfortunates sent to Iraq will be so debased, degraded and demoralized when they return home that they will consent to be used as mercenaries to defend the same neocoon
interests that did it to them, by shooting dissidents. The way Lincoln's union troops killed Southrons. Because, if the people rose up to throw the bastards out of Washington once for all, that is what it would come to. I'm thinking seriously of going down. Any support here?*****
Regardless of the behavior of the camera-hog cowards protesting the war, there was majority support at my University for the War in Vietnam - by actual poll.
Where's that?
Well, I didn 't do it for the cameras. That is a detestable smear. However, rumor was that filmaker Nick Ray (Rebel Without A Cause) who shot some 200 hrs of Harpur antiwar action caught me in a demonstration holding forth. See, I enjoyed being a big fish in a little pond. The Ivy wimps to the east hardly mattered. (Witness how they turned out: Harvard/Yale/Princeton -- Dershowitz, Bush, Akito).
And I wonder why the CAP people, not to mention Sam I Am, don't defend the position taken then on "women and minorities"? Could it have been a put-up, paid-for operation of a secret agency, like the national Student Government association, John Birch, et al? Then, when exposed, used the military --support for ROTC, who would object to that today? as cover for systematic agent provacateur mischief.
[The supporters had better things to do - like study!
It is false that those who studied instead of protesting necessarily supported the war. Some were afraid for their careers -- cowardly, one might say. But all should have particitated in the unfolding historical reality. It is what studies are for. That was/is the message. Anyone who missed it does not know America however much 'book larnin'' they aquire.
- than mimic the gutless b**tards making all the noise, breaking things and burning their draft
cards. Protruth
PS. I can't speak for other Ivies.
Those were the Ones, alright. Kick out the jams. Roll a fattie and blast out Hendrix and Marley. Chicks will appear, guaranteed. Man 'o man.
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