democracy v. republic

Democracy

POSTED BY 'FRANCO'--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

7-2-06

Fun With the Word "Democracy"

As we approach July 4th, we have just seen/heard two comments referring to America as a "democracy." This saddens us.

America is a republic, not a democracy. Yes, we know that many people say that a "democracy" and a "republic" are the same thing. No way.

Why does it matter whether you call America a "democracy" or a "republic?" This is why:

When you say that America is a "democracy," you are actually saying, by default, that America was designed by our founders to be a place where low-IQ Blacks and Mexicans should be able to vote, and a place where 'what the majority of the public wants' triumphs over 'what the constitution says.' Of course, our founders gave us no such place. In fact, only White males could vote in America until the "Reconstruction"-produced 15th Amendment was passed in 1869.

Here is a good example of a republic: even if 98% of the public wanted strict gun-control laws, the laws could not become reality unless the constitution allowed those laws to be made. But in a democracy, those laws could become reality if a majority of the public wanted them and if the Congress went along with that idea, regardless of what the constitution might actually say about the matter. Indeed, our founders and their followers warned against "democracy" in favor of a republic. The latter is based upon a fixed framework, while the other one is based upon what might be called "mob rule" or, perhaps, "the loudest voice wins."

[But nonetheless, in many ways, America has already become a democracy, e.g., various gun-control laws, various civil-rights laws and the Roe v. Wade court ruling of 1973].





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#2 07-03-06, 12:29
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Voting in general elections is built into the definition of a “republic”: “a state or nation in which the supreme power rests in all the citizens entitled to vote (the electorate) and is exercised by representatives elected, directly or indirectly, by them and responsible to them.” (Webster’s New World Dictionary, Second College Edition)

Article 1 of the U.S. Constitution, sec.s ii –iv. specifically concerns election of representatives to the House and Senate, incorporating democracy into this nation’s government.

It is the Republican party that has ruined this republic. Republicans in name contradict republicanism in practice. Republicans = ~republicans. They are twisted, self-contradictory individuals who have hijacked the language this nation was founded on, tagged it to the common denominator of: off-shore, old-world religions (Rome-Tel Aviv axis) and mass appeal (TV whore) protestants who can’t live with each other without gritting teeth and clenching fists, but expect to be accepted by the rest of the world.

The Baptists, my church people, have been suckered into their power politics thus terminating claim to anything except justified hatred for their poisonous unction.

As to ‘democracy,’ there are two fundamental kinds, based on the inner preparation for voting. In the church I was raised, the “business meeting” was conducted by responsible members in the spirit of the unity of the congregation. And that was spoken of as The Spirit, itself. Each one would have their own honest version of what was needed, but big votes, such as for the pastor, had to be near-unanimous, or the Spirit was not in it. That is what “democracy” meant to me. It extends to the motive for voting in secular elections by those for whom there is a unifying spirit represented by “America”, and I have been unable to vote for anyone since FDR, except Barry Commoner and Ross Perot who shared something of this folkish thing.

The other kind of “democracy” is voting to see which group can get a majority together by hook or crook – lying, killing, stealing, speaking for the “silent majority”, “the unborn,” ignorant aliens imported to for the purpose -- “whatever it takes”; anything goes. The moral stand of abolitionists, anti-abortionists, reverse gays and Abu Ghraib prison priests. (Referring to C. Colsen and crew.) I will never participate in anything they are ever a part of, nor will anyone who honors America. They are flesh and blood vampires living off the blood of victims they have sacrificed.
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